Pepe Escobar: Divisions Brewing in Europe

Dissent is brewing inside the EU and inside NATO as old aristocracy and business circles of France and Germany feel betrayed by Washington, Pepe Escobar, geopolitical analyst and veteran journalist, told Radio Sputnik’s New Rules podcast.

“Basically, what the Americans would like to do is to have Eastern Europe leading NATO and even leading the EU, which is even more far-fetched,” said Pepe Escobar.“And the new superpower would be Poland. This is what they think and this is what they’re actually working towards. The French and the Germans, and I’m not generalizing, let’s say, [the] patriotic faction of French business especially, and a few diplomats are saying, ‘No, we have to go back to our De Gaulle modern roots. We should be independent. We should have our own ‘force de frappe’, as they say, our own striking force. And we should leave NATO’, in fact,” the geopolitical analyst continued.

As the Biden administration is pushing ahead with simultaneously confronting Russia and China, Washington’s European allies are facing risks of losing not only cheap energy commodities but a leading trade partner, too.

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After his talks with Chairman Xi Jinping, French President Emmanuel Macron told Politico on April 9 that Europe must reduce its dependency on the US and avoid getting dragged into a confrontation between China and the US over Taiwan. He warned that Europe could get “caught up in crises that are not ours, which prevents it from building its strategic autonomy.”

“When Macron said we should be a third independent superpower, he didn’t mean Europe, he meant France, in fact,” noted Escobar. “And as you know, the French, they still have this idea of themselves as a perennial Western power (…) They’re still dreaming of Napoleon, not even referring to Napoleon’s defeats, like in Russia, for instance, but Napoleon at his apex. So it’s a very complicated, it’s a mixed feeling environment. And the question of sovereignty is essential. In France, they still have an idea of sovereignty in their minds coming from the Enlightenment.”

On April 11, Macron delivered his keynote speech in The Hague, Netherlands, emphasizing Europe’s need to promote its own economy and security amid the ongoing crisis.

Remarkably, as Macron was outlining his vision of Europe’s strategic autonomy, Polish Prime Minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, flew to Washington in order to strengthen economic and defense ties with the US – the one that “guarantees our security in Europe,” as per Warsaw.

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Even though Macron came under criticism from US lawmakers over his apparent dissent, about a week later, UK Foreign Secretary James Cleverly stepped forward warning that Britain should not “pull the shutters down” in an April 19 interview with the Guardian.

Speaking at Mansion House in the City of London six days later, the Foreign Secretary Cleverly insisted that no significant global problem can be solved without Beijing, arguing that “a stable, prosperous and peaceful China is good for Britain and good for the world.”

In contrast, German government officials remain largely silent which is hardly surprising given that the nation is “still in a neo-colony, period,” according to Escobar.

“And this was proved by the whole Nord Stream incident,” the veteran journalist said. “But German businessmen are already talking about it. And there is an undercurrent of very, I would say, very secret, in fact, because there’s one leak here and there. German businessmen and parts of the old German aristocracy, are basically discussing among themselves saying, ‘we have to get rid of this traffic light government, which is completely crazy with these Greens. And we should have a sort of Bismarck pact with Russia again, and then we’ll be able to fulfill our destiny as the number one trading power in Europe and one of the best in the world’. Trading, especially with Russia, China and the rest of Asia. And enormously get rid of American dominance. But this for the moment is an undercurrent that is kept very secret. But you hear this all the time by very well-connected German businessmen. So France and Germany in some high-level way are already thinking about it, the post EU/NATO environment.”

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By Pepe Escobar

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